tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post3950967903415343839..comments2024-03-28T00:50:16.901-05:00Comments on Life at the Harris County Criminal Justice Center: New Post on the Chronicle BlogMurray Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-84202927165921235022012-02-23T13:47:29.058-06:002012-02-23T13:47:29.058-06:00Anon 8:56-
Your posts (and some others) suggest t...Anon 8:56-<br /><br />Your posts (and some others) suggest that prostitution is just about sex. I would agree with you that criminal penalties shouldn't be applied to strictly sex between consenting adults. I think that's where you are missing the point. Prostitution is seldom just about sex. There are a whole host of issues going far beyond just sex. Drugs, theft, human trafficking, pimping, psychological issues,etc which are the real reasons the public, hence the legislature, believes prostitution should be illegal. It's just wrong on so many levels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-20284238035089134772012-02-23T08:56:46.315-06:002012-02-23T08:56:46.315-06:00For someone to see a prostitute is no more harmful...For someone to see a prostitute is no more harmful to anyone than plain old adultery... wives are not any happier about that but we don't make it a crime. It is for the married couple to work out. And what about single people? It is a moral issue not a legitimate criminal issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-62008005756760075732012-02-22T21:08:59.189-06:002012-02-22T21:08:59.189-06:00My understanding is that Judge Belinda Hill will a...My understanding is that Judge Belinda Hill will appoint a prosecutor pro tem. However, it is taking a little time to find one that is capable, available, and who has no connections to anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-48302757633837381722012-02-22T14:39:03.600-06:002012-02-22T14:39:03.600-06:00Has there been a ruling on appointing a pro tem?Has there been a ruling on appointing a pro tem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-54037726052840159532012-02-22T14:17:26.233-06:002012-02-22T14:17:26.233-06:00I'll bet Joe the Investigator could solve a pr...I'll bet Joe the Investigator could solve a prostitution case. He's simply the best investigator ever!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-47636582203875146222012-02-22T14:17:21.552-06:002012-02-22T14:17:21.552-06:00Has a special prosecutor been named yet?Has a special prosecutor been named yet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-87984933366395683622012-02-22T14:02:52.453-06:002012-02-22T14:02:52.453-06:001:03-
No use wasting time or energy on explaining...1:03-<br /><br />No use wasting time or energy on explaining why prostitution victimizes the woman or teenager as the case may be, the wife of the man, and society in general. You just aren't capable of understanding. Or perhaps, you and Elliott Spitzer use logic in the same way. Just keep living in denial...Folks like you also can't see a correlation between the effects of the drug cartel and how Americans buy "a little dope for recreational use". Sometimes for when they're paying for a prostitute...<br /><br />Now back to the problem at hand. Getting rid of Lykos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-49018203183542219572012-02-22T13:08:33.436-06:002012-02-22T13:08:33.436-06:00To those on both sides of the prostitution debate....To those on both sides of the prostitution debate... a timely response from a reader on another blog<br />advocating legalization.<br /><br />http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/dissent-of-the-day.html<br /><br />From a Florida blogaholicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-50746815060630542172012-02-22T13:03:53.626-06:002012-02-22T13:03:53.626-06:00Anonymous 4:22,
Your logic is not as good as that...Anonymous 4:22,<br /><br />Your logic is not as good as that which you criticize. You point to other crimes like pimps abusing prostitutes and prostitutes stealing from johns to justify your premise that prostitution is not victimless all without showing how prostitution itself victimizes anyone. Back to the drawing board with you.Take a course on logic and the elements of valid arguments before attempting to criticize others logic please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-4211819035898014002012-02-22T09:02:35.924-06:002012-02-22T09:02:35.924-06:00The average age of women entering prostitution is ...The average age of women entering prostitution is 13. Prostitution, whether the woman is an American or foreign born, is viewed more and more as human trafficking. When you work all day and someone else gets the money, that's not victimless. <br /><br />If you think it is victimless, then how would you feel if your daughter, wife, or mother decided to do it as her profession? And how would you like it happening across the street from your house? The news story that was referenced above indicates citizens around Harris County are writing letters about it being in their neighborhoods and not getting any help from HPD or the Harris County DA's office.<br /><br />When I was an ADA, I had a Chief who made us call the wives of arrested Johns. I hated doing it. But those wives were devastated and immediately starting thinking of the diseases their husbands might be passing onto them. Victimless? I don't think so. <br /><br />When I first got to the DA's office, adult bookstores and clubs had prostitution inside and because of a HPD policy, officers had a really hard time busting those kinds of places for law violations. As a result, clubs doing illegal things were all over the place. <br /><br />If it's widely known that HPD and Harris County aren't prosecuting prostitution, then Houston will become the prostitution mecca and human trafficking will increase dramatically. Saying, "We don't have enough officers" or "There is this sometimes successful defense to that crime" doesn't cut it. Crime is crime. You don't decide you're going to ignore an entire category of crimes because you feel like it. Unless you're Pat Lykos, DA of the fourth largest city in the U.S., I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-30692599884016306552012-02-22T08:03:15.860-06:002012-02-22T08:03:15.860-06:00Anon 9:07,
The "Bunker" is fixin' t...Anon 9:07,<br /><br />The "Bunker" is fixin' to get hit with a Bunker-Buster, to wit:<br /><br />1. the end does not in and of itself justify the means<br />2. failure to appreciate that the rule of law applies equally to both sides is not only hypocritical it is often fatal <br />3. meaness, stupidity, arrogance, ugly and coming really really close to criminal conduct is not as egregious to the voters as actual criminal conduct--regardless whether or not said conduct was engaged in to achieve a righteous result.<br /><br />Undermining the Grand Jury process is not cool it is criminal conduct regardless which side breaches the secrecy or other aspects of the process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-12356187226033375722012-02-22T07:07:40.850-06:002012-02-22T07:07:40.850-06:00Who is the new special prosecutor?Who is the new special prosecutor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-84977263470391242242012-02-21T21:07:19.308-06:002012-02-21T21:07:19.308-06:00Anon 6:50 love the sarcasm bro! On another note ...Anon 6:50 love the sarcasm bro! On another note Murray or anyone else, where have our imbedded reporters gone? Why no news from the bunker?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-52575961368197151662012-02-21T20:46:51.759-06:002012-02-21T20:46:51.759-06:00Can't help but think that Sam Hoover would fit...Can't help but think that Sam Hoover would fit right in with Lykos and the gang if he were still alive today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-53001190275515688242012-02-21T18:50:14.448-06:002012-02-21T18:50:14.448-06:00I hadn't heard that policy on johns, and I dou...I hadn't heard that policy on johns, and I doubt Lykos would be stupid enough to eliminate an entire category.<br /><br />I know I had a heck of a time getting some tapes on a couple johns I handled a couple years ago. Vice had a lot of issues, which obviously RP has corrected and brought light and transparency to HPD as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-62777700752919783372012-02-21T18:45:13.848-06:002012-02-21T18:45:13.848-06:00Anon 3:03,
I'm glad that you only get one vot...Anon 3:03,<br /><br />I'm glad that you only get one vote. You are regerring to the local street elements. The Mexican traffickers often make their "cargo" work their passage fees off by selling sex. It's all prostitution,but on s diff scale. Same issue. Another method is to keep hostages, and force the female family members into the sex trade..Does not sound free to me..<br /><br />Vote Anderson or Fertitta.....<br /><br />ABL 12 (Anybody But Lykos)<br /><br />22 year UC Officer......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-8239089079320656252012-02-21T18:26:51.558-06:002012-02-21T18:26:51.558-06:00Speaking of Michael Berry, who was he supporting f...Speaking of Michael Berry, who was he supporting for DA? He seems to be about as transparent as Lykos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-14442206502394416462012-02-21T18:25:08.142-06:002012-02-21T18:25:08.142-06:00Hypocrites like Michael Berry hurt society a lot m...Hypocrites like Michael Berry hurt society a lot more than prostitutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-43880308846127093942012-02-21T18:07:16.739-06:002012-02-21T18:07:16.739-06:00Zack 3:03 aka Don. Not a crime found in the penal...Zack 3:03 aka Don. Not a crime found in the penal code. Good thing too cause all those ADA's who debriefed on six after testifying would be charged, including your little lunar queen when she did not take the fifth the first time she went in. News flash, the leaks came from the DA's office. Staff members were told if you got a subpoena go tell six ASAP. Vollman said that order came directly from six. After ADA's testified they we're shuttled into the conference room on six to discuss their testimony. Hobbs and crew saw who went in to grand jury and saw several subpoenas. People in the office heard what was going on and people in the office talked about it. It was like the old telephone game. It is the same with the 232nd. Everyone knows they are winding down and knows Chow and Moore among others have been in grand jury.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-45587052955783824282012-02-21T17:30:35.300-06:002012-02-21T17:30:35.300-06:00Anon 3:03: You refer to human trafficking, not pro...Anon 3:03: You refer to human trafficking, not prostitution. They are two completely different issues. Human trafficking is a major problem. The free choices of women not under the influence of drugs or human traffickers / pimps is an entirely different situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-68404279708680005002012-02-21T17:20:45.550-06:002012-02-21T17:20:45.550-06:00Murry,
Is disseminating secret GJ testimony a WTF...Murry,<br /><br />Is disseminating secret GJ testimony a WTF issue or a significant transgression with criminal liability?<br /><br />Independent Activist supporting ZACK FERTITTA FOR DA!!!!ZACK FERTITTA FOR DAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-72494950119223963552012-02-21T16:23:15.927-06:002012-02-21T16:23:15.927-06:00Prostitution is one of the most prevalent uses for...Prostitution is one of the most prevalent uses for modern day slavery. The Hell it's victimless.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-58263049147205462332012-02-21T16:22:13.151-06:002012-02-21T16:22:13.151-06:003:03-
1. Prostitution isn't a victimless crim...3:03-<br /><br />1. Prostitution isn't a victimless crime. Pimps abuse the women who line their pockets. If no pimp is involved, then the women often steal from her John's and use their income to support drug habits which goes right up the chain of how crime, drugs, and prostitution are related.<br /><br />2.Laws will never completely stop prostitution nor will drug laws. People who patronize those activities contribute to the crime rate which affects us all.<br /><br />3. If you don't like the way laws are enforced in Texas, move to Nevada or some 3rd world country. <br /><br />BTW, your logic is what is chipping away at the fabric of our country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-51799232661905631952012-02-21T15:03:16.624-06:002012-02-21T15:03:16.624-06:00Anon 11:00AM: Doesn't our government have bigg...Anon 11:00AM: Doesn't our government have bigger problems to deal with than prosecuting prostitution, a victimless crime. <br /><br />The large majority of the world, over 70% of countries, have legalized prostitution. If the drug addicts are prostituting for their drugs, at least they aren't stealing from the rest of us to fund the drugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-4765876399452368452012-02-21T12:28:27.367-06:002012-02-21T12:28:27.367-06:00"We are eager to show the public all the evid..."We are eager to show the public all the evidence in this case." - Patricia R. Lykos (2/1/12)<br /><br />"The Harris County District Attorney’s Office has long been eager to share what we know with the public. Now that the grand jury’s proceedings have ended, we will be responding—vigorously.<br /><br />In the days to come, our website—HarrisCountyDA.com—will feature a new section devoted to setting the record straight." (source: www.harriscountyda.com). <br /><br />Ms. Lykos:<br /><br />Howdy. We've got to tip our hat to you. You really know how to create a cliff-hanger. This is the best tease since J.R. got shot at end of season on Dallas.<br /><br />We really think you have created the right level of anticipation. Now is the time - let's release the evidence. <br /><br />Excellent discussion. Remember - sometimes it works best when you sleep in curlers.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />- the publicDay 20noreply@blogger.com