tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post3987891696496121132..comments2024-03-28T00:50:16.901-05:00Comments on Life at the Harris County Criminal Justice Center: Kelly Siegler RespondsMurray Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-82056300409879164812020-06-02T08:06:30.605-05:002020-06-02T08:06:30.605-05:00Mrs.Kelly Siegler I have a cold case that may inte...Mrs.Kelly Siegler I have a cold case that may interest you.contact me Gregory.Isom@shelbysheriff.orgAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619116110530455593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-17813117089363820182017-06-02T13:42:23.993-05:002017-06-02T13:42:23.993-05:00You only hope he's cleared because why?Hes a p...You only hope he's cleared because why?Hes a pos who doesn't be deserve a minute out of jail freely walking amongst others.He deserves to rot in his jail cell.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673641503552946286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-5210198839992655282017-02-21T12:50:13.860-06:002017-02-21T12:50:13.860-06:00I hope David is cleared of all charges.
Good luck...I hope David is cleared of all charges.<br /><br />Good luck with your misguided hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-32980081283231670962016-12-28T22:37:22.097-06:002016-12-28T22:37:22.097-06:00Temple just got released. I hope He gets tried ag...Temple just got released. I hope He gets tried againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-57974072777133627932015-07-10T13:42:31.192-05:002015-07-10T13:42:31.192-05:00Grits, he denied 11:29's attempt to reopen th...Grits, he denied 11:29's attempt to reopen this discussion. 11:29 was told by a Kelly supporter to study the way Kelly prosecuted her cases in order to get better. Done. I just need to get better at finding out what they are hiding from me under Brady and MMA. To all of you who chose not to scrutinize your idol, go back, study and get better. Quit violating the law to win cases...even if the defendant is in your mind, guilty. That is how the innocent get convicted. <br />11:29.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-82816223621855744442015-07-10T08:43:02.772-05:002015-07-10T08:43:02.772-05:00C'mon, Murray, let's open this one up agai...C'mon, Murray, let's open this one up again and hear your opinions in light of Judge Gist's findings of fact.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-62816644035446089732015-07-08T19:12:44.182-05:002015-07-08T19:12:44.182-05:00It is a shame that it has taken three years since ...It is a shame that it has taken three years since this thread began in order to have a court find and conclude so many examples of Brady violations were committed by Ms. Siegler, LEOs and agents of the state. I took a lot of jabs over my impressions of Ms. Siegler's affidavit. I may have only been practicing criminal law for a few years when this thread started, but her explanations did not ring true to me and apparently not to Judge Gist either. You ADA's who apparently knew who I was and are upset that I call you out for turning a blind eye to Brady violations and now Michael Morton violations can eat crow and stop assuming that these heroes you worship would never think about engaging in misconduct. Another one is on the verge of biting the dust. Those ADA's that tried to impune me regarding my legal knowledge while exalting your hero might want to consider that this peoples' hero testified that it's not Brady if the the State doesn't believe it is true. Brilliant analysis! I'm sure some of you agree with her. Good luck with that and your future endeavors. For those of you now absent your illusions please join me in calling out anyone who hides material evidence from any defendant in order to secure a conviction. Maybe also consider that a prosecutor has a duty to discover exculpatory evidence especially when offense reports don't pass the smell test. Thank you to the good guys and to those still in denial and thinking you are doing God's work, may you end up like the former Texas DAs recently disbarred or banished to Palau. Signed 11:29. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-85700617331287297402014-12-23T06:55:14.404-06:002014-12-23T06:55:14.404-06:001:02 a.m.,
I'm going to go out on a limb here...1:02 a.m.,<br /><br />I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that a) you aren't a lawyer; and b) you aren't watching the hearing.<br /><br />Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-46034016937422154592014-12-23T01:02:17.313-06:002014-12-23T01:02:17.313-06:00Looks like Ms. Siegler is not doing too well on he...Looks like Ms. Siegler is not doing too well on her explanation of Brady as she justified protecting an alternative suspect by withholding material evidence that someone else committed the murder. What a difference a couple of years make. How can we have Brady turned over when so many state actors have it in their hands and use twisted logic to deny that exculpatory evidence is Brady or claim it is somehow exempt from disclosure. I have not seen any sanctions materialize against Deguerin. I predict Temple gets granted a new trial that never happens because of prosecutors dismissing to keep the light off of the roaches. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-60747402859964035572012-10-15T14:50:23.636-05:002012-10-15T14:50:23.636-05:00What's the latest on the appeal?What's the latest on the appeal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-66739009056409958132012-10-11T10:49:23.056-05:002012-10-11T10:49:23.056-05:00Look up "due process of law," 10:55. An...Look up "due process of law," 10:55. And interpret it broadly, as it was meant to be interpreted. Not like the CCA would have you believe. And of course, don't get bogged down in procedural due process, that sort of procedural nonsense is the hobgoblin of little minds (e.g., your average ADA). <br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-85939732868724954092012-10-10T22:55:33.302-05:002012-10-10T22:55:33.302-05:00I am still trying to figure out how an attorney fi...I am still trying to figure out how an attorney files an "out-of-time motion for new trial" since there is no express provision for allowing out-of-time motions for new trial and the trial court does not maintain continuing jurisdiction over criminal cases. I guess these defense superstars know something this little old habeas litigator has never learned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-41986051517290596332012-10-08T09:01:00.053-05:002012-10-08T09:01:00.053-05:0026For Double Dick to be a top lawyer in Texas is a...26For Double Dick to be a top lawyer in Texas is about the dumbest i've seen yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-28519577301691824312012-10-07T17:17:51.671-05:002012-10-07T17:17:51.671-05:00Anon 9:38 just because Siegler obviously has more ...Anon 9:38 just because Siegler obviously has more balls than you doesn't mean she can be felated. Don't be an ass!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-89578866269681086582012-10-05T14:29:13.842-05:002012-10-05T14:29:13.842-05:00Another strong rumor out there that Lykos' Fir...Another strong rumor out there that Lykos' First Leprechaun is resigning today. Where's the party?<br /><br />Def of Leprechaun:<br />is a type of fairy in Irish folklore, usually taking the form of an old man, clad in cowboy boots, who enjoys partaking in mischief. So fits...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-48799847392213427622012-10-05T07:49:01.885-05:002012-10-05T07:49:01.885-05:00BI,
It's pretty obvious to reasonable people w...BI,<br />It's pretty obvious to reasonable people what a phenom KS is and that 11:29 is nothing more than a blowhard crab best ignored.<br /><br />Law Enforcement,<br />Some people enjoy hating on you guys until they need you but the rest of us appreciate the sacrifice you make day after day--thank you.<br /><br />Murray, <br />Great b-day party last night and watching Luke showed what a terrific dad you are.<br /><br />Dick,<br />What goes around comes around and what's fixin' to land in your lap is something you can only blame yourself for.<br /><br />Mike,<br />You're going to have your hands full in January and I suggest not forgetting your promise to be a real prosecutor and NOT a politician.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-45683289010275229772012-10-05T06:26:26.334-05:002012-10-05T06:26:26.334-05:00Someone find me an article about a defense attorne...Someone find me an article about a defense attorney so we can make illogical comparisons fairly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-60221095237962460712012-10-04T15:51:46.772-05:002012-10-04T15:51:46.772-05:00Yeah, all cops are really great guys:
http://www....Yeah, all cops are really great guys:<br /><br />http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Former-HPD-cop-guilty-of-raping-cantina-waitress-3919396.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-24054842607900339282012-10-04T13:31:11.849-05:002012-10-04T13:31:11.849-05:00"Ms.Siegler is obviously talented and hard wo..."Ms.Siegler is obviously talented and hard working, but the risk analogy just does not equate...."<br /><br />--October 4, 2012 11:29 AM<br /><br />REALLY?<br /><br />1. Does Murray's article, "Kelly Siegler Responds" not suggest there was a risk to Kelly Siegler?<br /><br />2. Did Dick DeGuerin's pet, Sean Buckley, not file a vindictive and baseless grievance against Kelly Siegler that she had to defend?<br /><br />3. Has Kelly Siegler not been defamed on the front page of the Houston Chronicle with seeming impunity?<br /><br />4. Does this saga not create and endless forum for the "Kelly Haters"?<br /><br />And you dare to suggest that Kelly Siegler took zero personal risk in putting JUSTICE above self? <br /><br />I take umbrage to your self righteous pretense.<br /><br />BI<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-32890574863692217552012-10-04T11:29:49.523-05:002012-10-04T11:29:49.523-05:00BI,
Your analogy is flawed. In the Cooley scenari...BI, <br />Your analogy is flawed. In the Cooley scenario there is not much downside risk to trying to save someone facing imminent death. The only risk is failure and the patient was going to die with no action. Very good of him to risk his efforts which may or may not succeed in a case with nothing to lose but the effort put forth. Taking the risk of prosecuting a criminal case where no physical evidence ties the accused to the crime risks punishing an innocent person. Some risks are worth it others are not. If one thinks that closure for the victims and I POSSIBLE justice for the slain is worth the risk of convicting an innocent person where reasonable doubt exists they are actually taking the risk of doing irreparable harm to yet another victim. The good Dr. assumed the risk that he might not succeed. The good attorney IMPOSED the risk that an innocent person may be convicted and lose their life or freedom while assuming no risk themselves other than that of an acquittal and covered by immunity regardless of good faith for any injustice that may occur. I get your point about the good doctor. Ms.Siegler is obviously talented and hard working, but the risk analogy just does not equate. She risks nothing herself. If she gets a wrongful conviction the additional victim has no recourse against her. Where does he go to get the lost years back or his reputation. The guy is probably guilty, but... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-27785203294624912832012-10-04T09:38:16.001-05:002012-10-04T09:38:16.001-05:00That's not even close to what 10:46 said jigme...That's not even close to what 10:46 said jigmeister, and you know it. <br /><br />You were, at the very least, less than complete in your reasons for investigating through a grand jury. Most likely you were just being intentionally obtuse, and on the outside I'd say you were being intentionally deceptive by omission. <br /><br />We get it. This crowd hates Deguerin and Lykos, and you all would fellate Siegler until your dying breath if possible. But at least be honest about it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-32482873219911112312012-10-04T08:05:46.580-05:002012-10-04T08:05:46.580-05:00"2:18,
Cooley's patients took the risks o..."2:18,<br />Cooley's patients took the risks of betting a life of pain and disability soon to end anyway for a longer lease on an improve life. DA's risk nothing themselves by trying a case and losing and certainly don't have the consent of the innocent to try them for their life or freedom. When DA's try a case and win with weak evidence and reasonable doubt that they "risk" overcoming and that any objective person could articulate if they had access to the evidence......"<br />--Anon 3:58<br /><br />First of all Cooley's patients didn't want to die. But for Dr. Cooley's intervention their death was imminent. It was Dr. Cooley who took the risk on their behalf.<br /><br />Secondly, what you fail to appreciate is that Belinda Temple was not the only IRREFUTABLY INNOCENT victim in her murder. Ms. Siegler represented the other innocent victims left behind (mother, father, sister, children, friends, etc.) as well as the State of Texas.<br /><br />Thirdly, everything is easy for the arm-chair quarterback.....that is until he steps onto the field.<br /><br />People make choices and choices have consequences......rather than make excuses for a cold blooded killer like David Temple or just throw the towel in on a complicated surgical patient; I applaud the hard work and dedication great leaders strive for and achieve--our community is better off because of folks like Kelly Siegler and Denton Cooley.<br /><br />BI<br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-13682160857722135532012-10-04T07:37:34.186-05:002012-10-04T07:37:34.186-05:00Anon 3:21,
Going for a cell phone--REALLY?
I offe...Anon 3:21,<br /><br />Going for a cell phone--REALLY?<br />I offered a parody on your reasoning ability and your comment proved my point. <br /><br />BTW, OJ really was guilty too<br /><br />Just Sayin'Just Sayin'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-57125437927903889822012-10-03T22:40:15.483-05:002012-10-03T22:40:15.483-05:00Cases get dropped all the time. Stop being so dram...Cases get dropped all the time. Stop being so dramatic.<br /><br />9:00 has it right. 8:56 thinks that cops are poorly educated thugs, prosecutors are cowardly and corrupt, and that juries are stupid and cannot weigh the evidence properly. You do realize that you have the option of a judge trial if you trust the system so little? Or are judges in on it as well, and only good and noble defense attorneys can stop these sham prosecutions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-21610669359449520022012-10-03T21:45:33.144-05:002012-10-03T21:45:33.144-05:00Who told 6:13 that sometimes you HAVE to go forwar...Who told 6:13 that sometimes you HAVE to go forward with less evidence than you would like. If the evidence overcomes your reasonable doubts it should be enough for you to like it and go forward. If you can still say with the evidence you have that their is a reasonable possibility the person did not do it or there is a reasonable doubt that the evidence was obtained in a legal manner then no, you do not HAVE to go forward with that prosecution unless your boss says so.<br /><br />Then you have a decision to make. Take the paycheck and risk screwing up someone's life or speak truth to power, quit if necessary and explain why you are quitting to the public that elects your boss. I have seen many dismissal forms that say "unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt." So if you are trying to do justice rather than achieve a high conviction rate you may have to switch sides when you insist on doing justice when leadership team members interfere with justice to protect their political position, a policy or a program. So what did change between 1999 and 2005 that took Temple from not enough to ask for an indictment (just PC) to we as prosecutors have no reasonable doubt and want to take away his freedom for life? The risk that the prosecutor was willing to take that they could convict someone to a life term on less evidence than they would like. If I am an innocent person maybe accused because of a criminal trying to cover their crime as many do I certainly hope justice is not dependent upon the risk that an ADA is willing to take...on my behalf. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com