tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post6546582689607312149..comments2024-03-28T00:50:16.901-05:00Comments on Life at the Harris County Criminal Justice Center: The Flow Chart ComethMurray Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-18014056461806733692008-12-24T09:49:00.000-06:002008-12-24T09:49:00.000-06:00I stand corrected. I have no problem admitting wh...I stand corrected. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong--had to be a first time, after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-9485539952663168952008-12-23T16:08:00.000-06:002008-12-23T16:08:00.000-06:00It wasn't Vic Wisner who failed to file the proper...It wasn't Vic Wisner who failed to file the proper paperwork for the hold over Grand Jury. It was Kate Dolan, and funny, she not only gets to stay, but gets to take over Misdemeanor. Geez!! Vic is just another political firing by the dear ol' troll. Just the facts, Jack!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-78576446010827842692008-12-23T15:41:00.000-06:002008-12-23T15:41:00.000-06:00Hogtied: I would question Rosenthal for keeping s...Hogtied: I would question Rosenthal for keeping someone on staff that would make such a mistake far more than I would Lykos for letting them go. <BR/><BR/>Just sayin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-55482187277757859332008-12-23T14:54:00.000-06:002008-12-23T14:54:00.000-06:00ANON 1238,And Vic was punished "in a pretty big da...ANON 1238,<BR/>And Vic was punished "in a pretty big damn way" Bubba, dontcha think?<BR/>Moral: Don't fuck with the Troll or her Blue Hairs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-46293721245237493622008-12-23T12:38:00.000-06:002008-12-23T12:38:00.000-06:00I'm pretty sure that Vic was fired over the Justic...<I>I'm pretty sure that Vic was fired over the Justice Medina and the Runaway Grand Jury flap. Lykos probably wanted to make sure she stayed in the good graces of her hardcore Republican base.</I><BR/><BR/>While I'm sure that's true, it should also be noted that the grand jury was indicting people beyond their term and Vic hadn't properly filed the extension paperwork. So had that grand jury indicted several people, like they always do, every indictment may have been void. <BR/><BR/>Ignoring the political funny business, that's a pretty big damn mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-79776182452619357502008-12-23T11:13:00.000-06:002008-12-23T11:13:00.000-06:00I forgot to add Vic Wisner to the list of attorney...I forgot to add Vic Wisner to the list of attorneys fired.<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure that Vic was fired over the Justice Medina and the Runaway Grand Jury flap. Lykos probably wanted to make sure she stayed in the good graces of her hardcore Republican base.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-47314888841700437552008-12-23T07:33:00.000-06:002008-12-23T07:33:00.000-06:00Anon 1:28,The terminated prosecutors were me, Crai...Anon 1:28,<BR/>The terminated prosecutors were me, Craig Goodhart, Luci Davidson, Joe Owmby, and Mike Trent. Bert Graham also retired.<BR/>The investigators were John Ray Harrison, Joe Vara, Pat Smith, Patrick Smith, Bobby Dennard, and Marcus McCarrol.<BR/><BR/>Anon 6:40,<BR/>Thank you for the kind words. In the past there have been problems with prosecutors that continuously reset cases to avoid going to trial. Within the Office, they are given the label of "Trial Dodger", which is not a title one wants to have. Although this problem occurs every once in awhile, I don't know of anybody right now that is still with the Office that would qualify as one.<BR/>Unfortunately, the backlog of cases is often due to just the sheer amount of crime and the fact that there are only 22 District Courts and 15 County Courts.<BR/>Sometimes cases just have to be reset for circumstances beyond our control -- missing or unavailable witnesses being the most prominent of them.<BR/>You do bring up an interesting topic, though. I'll try to do a post on this in the near future.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-15495512239343473252008-12-23T06:40:00.000-06:002008-12-23T06:40:00.000-06:00Murray,While we can be thankful for prosecutors th...Murray,<BR/><BR/>While we can be thankful for prosecutors that know how to do their job right, what should a person think of those prosecutors that drag cases for years by passing on the file to the next prosecutor and on to the next without trying the case?<BR/><BR/>Since am fascinated about your blog, i thought i should ask you this question. <BR/><BR/>By the way, am sorry about your job loss but remember this..."when one door closes, another one opens"...keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-85002714886152382242008-12-22T01:28:00.000-06:002008-12-22T01:28:00.000-06:00Murray. I am sincerely sorry to hear about your f...Murray. I am sincerely sorry to hear about your forced departure. It is truly a loss for Harris County. Can you post a list of those Prosecutors and Investigators that have been dismissed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-24427920887779035892008-12-19T18:33:00.000-06:002008-12-19T18:33:00.000-06:00I find it funny that they can't even get the boxes...I find it funny that they can't even get the boxes and the lines on the flow chart right. This gang really can't shoot straight. That work product is pretty sloppy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-46643076681819440632008-12-19T16:37:00.001-06:002008-12-19T16:37:00.001-06:00ANON 251,Great....now I'll not only have to come t...ANON 251,<BR/>Great....now I'll not only have to come to work on New Year's Day in my penguin attire, I'll have to sell my crib on the north side and establish primary residency in Fort Bend County if I plan on being a gunner ADA at HCDA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-48639391475150602082008-12-19T16:37:00.000-06:002008-12-19T16:37:00.000-06:00I've always thought the DA's office looked like to...I've always thought the DA's office looked like too many chiefs and not enough indians. This kind of confirms it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-77206936277395855742008-12-19T15:34:00.000-06:002008-12-19T15:34:00.000-06:00Thanks for the flow chart Mark. Facinating readin...Thanks for the flow chart Mark. Facinating reading.jigmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924600460740103836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-16487813602946096392008-12-19T14:51:00.001-06:002008-12-19T14:51:00.001-06:00AHCL,Don't you think that the primary basis of dem...AHCL,<BR/>Don't you think that the primary basis of demotions and terminations at the prosecutor level had to do more with who Leitner felt would be competition in 4 years and/or who had close affiliations with the Chuckster then on who supported Kelly Siegler? If he and "Liekos" based those decisions purely on who supported Kelly it would be hard to explain some of the promotions. I would agree, however, that your blog strongly supporting Kelly put you in a unique position and that had you remained anonymous, you would not have been let go. <BR/>Now before you say the butchering isn't over yet I agree; the troll and her gang need some of the "competition prosecutors" for the short term to handle a few high profile cases. In spite of any under the table deals brokered by the "transparent" Lykos/Leitner cartel, as soon as the acute need has been met any high profile quality prosecutor residing in Harris County will be toast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-37233088904626162792008-12-19T14:51:00.000-06:002008-12-19T14:51:00.000-06:00AHCL,Don't you think that the primary basis of dem...AHCL,<BR/>Don't you think that the primary basis of demotions and terminations at the prosecutor level had to do more with who Leitner felt would be competition in 4 years and/or who had close affiliations with the Chuckster then on who supported Kelly Siegler? If he and "Liekos" based those decisions purely on who supported Kelly it would be hard to explain some of the promotions. I would agree, however, that your blog strongly supporting Kelly put you in a unique position and that had you remained anonymous, you would not have been let go. <BR/>Now before you say the butchering isn't over yet I agree; the troll and her gang need some of the "competition prosecutors" for the short term to handle a few high profile cases. In spite of any under the table deals brokered by the "transparent" Lykos/Leitner cartel, as soon as the acute need has been met any high profile quality prosecutor residing in Harris County will be toast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-14359904139241605482008-12-19T14:42:00.000-06:002008-12-19T14:42:00.000-06:00Here is the flowchart, suitable for framing or wra...<A HREF="http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/24606/DA_Org_Chart_20081209.pdf" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is the flowchart, suitable for framing or wrapping fish.<BR/><BR/>Every criminal defense lawyer should have a nickname. Anon C has just given you yours. Henceforth you will be Murray "Cue Ball" Newman. I'm glad you've inhabited that sobriquet, since I am on the way there myself.Mark Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04128739833441582127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-72611801336500018872008-12-19T14:39:00.000-06:002008-12-19T14:39:00.000-06:00MurrayDo be careful. I've heard some reports of b...Murray<BR/><BR/>Do be careful. I've heard some reports of bald jihadists in town.Ron in Houstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02496306119920809104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-19952632803129297732008-12-19T14:05:00.000-06:002008-12-19T14:05:00.000-06:00Sounds like a little over specializing to me. Are...Sounds like a little over specializing to me. Are we investigating cold animal homicides?<BR/><BR/>I know I have been gone too long when I don't recognize any of the new chief names. Congrats anyway.<BR/><BR/>In answer to Marks question. My quess is that Patty and Jim will be playing with the pay slots and people won't know until after the new year what their salaries will be. There is some overlap between chiefs, division chiefs, and bureau chiefs built into the slot system. Better let Burt fill them in before he goes though, because no one ever understood it but him.jigmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924600460740103836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-7840378367681795462008-12-19T08:52:00.000-06:002008-12-19T08:52:00.000-06:00Probably the most egregious call was putting Clint...Probably the most egregious call was putting Clint Greenwood in charge of the Police Integrity Division. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse! Clint was the HPD Union lawyer for years. Even if you think he's honest enough for the job (dubious at best) there is an obvious conflict of interest when he could potentially be making a charging decision on a former client. Great move, Patty!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-59193550887166753712008-12-19T08:31:00.000-06:002008-12-19T08:31:00.000-06:00Nice head shot, but isn't it unwise, at this junct...Nice head shot, but isn't it unwise, at this juncture, to advertise your baldness? You never know if an angry and disenfranchised baldist might run across it and target you, thereby prematurely creating the need for that Crimes Against the Bald division. Just tryin' to look out for ya, Cue Ball.anonymous chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03731987145908903546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-12603214838477113932008-12-19T07:13:00.000-06:002008-12-19T07:13:00.000-06:00Murray,Something that I haven't seen discussed is ...Murray,<BR/><BR/>Something that I haven't seen discussed is that the lawyers who were demoted were <I>actually demoted</I>, that is (or as you guys might write, "to wit"), with a decrease in salary.<BR/><BR/>Care to discuss?<BR/><BR/>Mark.Mark Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04128739833441582127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-2671692133321803512008-12-19T01:31:00.000-06:002008-12-19T01:31:00.000-06:00Were any of those experienced ADAs sent to the JP ...Were any of those experienced ADAs sent to the JP courts?Tenderfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02892759706923972940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-958069043878223802008-12-18T23:48:00.000-06:002008-12-18T23:48:00.000-06:00If you fax it to me I'll email you the PDF.If you fax it to me I'll email you the PDF.Mark Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04128739833441582127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-37454416038791789182008-12-18T23:10:00.000-06:002008-12-18T23:10:00.000-06:00Please scan the flow chart and post the PDF!!Please scan the flow chart and post the PDF!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-63548214669769795902008-12-18T22:44:00.000-06:002008-12-18T22:44:00.000-06:00My copy of the flow chart is a hard copy. I don't...My copy of the flow chart is a hard copy. I don't know if it is available on-line.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.com