tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post6168423740644435698..comments2024-03-28T00:50:16.901-05:00Comments on Life at the Harris County Criminal Justice Center: What to Do With Susan WrightMurray Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-33238997656665272162014-11-24T06:07:34.223-06:002014-11-24T06:07:34.223-06:00That's a pretty funny statement coming from a ...That's a pretty funny statement coming from a person who is still reading my blog post at 12:30 on a Monday morning --FIVE YEARS after I wrote it. <br /><br />And my practice is thriving. Thanks for asking. Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-21334340091974571492014-11-24T00:42:23.882-06:002014-11-24T00:42:23.882-06:00You're right, like you, this Post has long sin...You're right, like you, this Post has long since become irrelevant However, thanks to technology your simplistic, ignorant and now PROVEN inability to judge a case based on facts will live forever. Nicely done. Do you still practice (emphasis on "practice") law? Or are you cleaning carpets for a living... Yet?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-49947064516778334252014-07-29T21:22:27.535-05:002014-07-29T21:22:27.535-05:00Ha. Yeah, we could all learn some awesome justice ...Ha. Yeah, we could all learn some awesome justice traits from California. Way to keep up with the posts in a timely manner, dude. This one is only five years old. Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-83819424490213577032014-07-29T21:14:26.397-05:002014-07-29T21:14:26.397-05:00As I suspected just a bunch of loud-mouth gutless ...As I suspected just a bunch of loud-mouth gutless whiners who wont post a discerning argument the goes against the status quo. Remember you practice law in Texas. That is nothing to be proud of. A state which wrongly executes more innocents then every other state. Perhaps save Florida. Had Susan been given A fair (non-unprofessional prosecution grand-standing, trial here in California, she wouldn't have seen a day behind bars. An ignorant populous ensures an ignorant jury. Texas is a national laughing stalk when it comes to administering true, fact based justice. If any of you had an ounce of self respect you would slink off and sell used cars for a living. <br />As for miss Hobby laundry gal. Keep your lies and venom<br />under control and then you might stand a better chance staying out for a while. I know for a fact that you are spewing lies based hate and jealousy. You might want to re-think your ways. If not your cell will be waiting for your next long-term visit,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-67891529848899840522013-06-14T20:34:50.716-05:002013-06-14T20:34:50.716-05:00Kkbb......I was also in hobby with her I worked in...Kkbb......I was also in hobby with her I worked in laundry with her n her hiv positive wife Sam ...Susan laughs at Jeff like she got away with something I remember when they were gonna air that 48 hours special about her on tv she tried to get them to not show it to us in the prison....she is a bully and a liar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-22798214883174767062010-08-01T23:50:19.229-05:002010-08-01T23:50:19.229-05:00WOW!!! I sat in TDCJ with this woman and didn'...WOW!!! I sat in TDCJ with this woman and didn't know who she was until today when I happened to be watching tv and caught a rerunof 48 Hours Mystery. In TDCJ Hobby Unit, she was not only physically threatening to myself and others, but very manipulative, an award-winning actress, can turn on the tears in a heartbeat, and seems totally capable of doing all of which she was accused of. I too have been in abusive relationships before and she totally does not fit the profile, Seems completely premeditated to me to tie someone up and do all that. I just feel so sorry for those two kids who have had to go through alot, and hope they never have to endure their mother. Also hope that Jeffrey's family gets some justice.kkbbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12218719931265189843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-66575021341259283622010-05-19T20:04:50.208-05:002010-05-19T20:04:50.208-05:00Susan Wright is a psychopath, could she really get...Susan Wright is a psychopath, could she really get custody of her children? Misty McMicheal's on the stand comes of as unstable, forget credible! What adult actually whines 'they're mean' to the judge about an attorney. The D.A. owes it to Jeff Wright's family to get justice the second time around. I am thinking "life" rather then 45 years! I agree 25 was a gift!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-22239606993961030752009-11-15T17:59:45.205-06:002009-11-15T17:59:45.205-06:00Anon 5:30,
1st of all only the defense is charged ...Anon 5:30,<br />1st of all only the defense is charged with the duty to be zealous.<br />Secondly, there is a huge difference in a prosecutor introducing evidence that is objectionable so that justice IS ultimately served as opposed to doing so to merely win, regardless of actual guilt. That was the point. <br /><br />Dick DeGuerin is the only one who "believes" the defendants Kelly convicted that he defended are really innocent and if he were a man he wouldn't be so chickenshit about it.<br /><br />Winning at all costs is a misnomer when the prosecutor seeks justice at all costs; not a conviction regardless of guilt, as you seem to imply. <br />It would be naive to state that any time a trial lawyer's evidence was objected to and sustained that such action constituted ethical misconduct. Even if reversible error is the result; that in and of itself does not constitute ethical misconduct either. <br /><br />Kelly Siegler is an aggressive and effective attorney. She unquestionably plays hardball. But let's not forget that the criminal defendants she prosecuted played hardball on a very different level and need not be coddled outside their Constitutional safety net. <br /><br />I'm sure you would prefer Mary Poppins to be the ADA prototype and under Lykos you'll get your wish. I, however, am not a fan of political correctness in the criminal justice system.BLACK INKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03806198898618859706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-14278684811058910302009-11-15T08:50:27.644-06:002009-11-15T08:50:27.644-06:00Any reasonable lawyer looking at the facts in this...Any reasonable lawyer looking at the facts in this case would have concluded that the original defense attorney did a hell of a job getting 25 years for murder. Frankly, a retrial probably benefits the state, as the jury will start from the position that Defendant was already found guilty of murder. That frees the State to focus on the gory details.<br /><br />While the Defense certainly can put on their experts and blah blah blah about past abuse by the victim, the jury will still be faced with the fact that the Defendant tied the victim to a bed and tortured him to death with numerous knife wounds. That ain't gonna play well.<br /><br />Bottom line: Wice provide ineffective assistance of counsel on appeal by getting a retrial on punishment, exposing the defendant to substantially more time on retrial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-10902620628473631822009-11-13T17:30:55.824-06:002009-11-13T17:30:55.824-06:00Black ink, I agree that both sides need to be zeal...Black ink, I agree that both sides need to be zealous but the prosecutor also has the duty to seek justice. You can't do that if you are admittedly introducing evidence you know should not come before a jury under the theory that the bell cannot be unrung. This is not a grey area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-47870783622330686372009-11-13T14:40:55.706-06:002009-11-13T14:40:55.706-06:00Sorry. I'll try again...
Have you seen/heard ...Sorry. I'll try again...<br />Have you seen/heard this?<br />http://texaslawyer.typepad.com/texas_lawyer_blog/2009/11/harris-county-da-in-dc-to-testify-on-the-innocence-protection-act.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-5504703006474739312009-11-13T14:39:17.811-06:002009-11-13T14:39:17.811-06:00Had you seen/heard about this?Had you seen/heard about this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-42915682026427184042009-11-13T13:44:40.474-06:002009-11-13T13:44:40.474-06:00Anon 12:28,
Cutting edge trial advocacy requires p...Anon 12:28,<br />Cutting edge trial advocacy requires pushing the envelope on both sides of the bar. <br />Competitive people like Kelly Siegler want and like to win. It drives them. However, I never knew Kelly's strong competitive drive to be so compelling that she knowingly sought to convict a defendant whose actual guilt she reasonably or should have questioned. <br />That is not to say that the end always justifies the means just that the law is not always black and white either and it is more often the gray area that decides the tougher and more ambiguous cases. <br />Trial and appellate judges would be superfluous in a world where trial lawyers did not push the envelope.BLACK INKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03806198898618859706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-65108443236776729252009-11-13T12:28:26.301-06:002009-11-13T12:28:26.301-06:00I also remember much more testimony about abuse th...I also remember much more testimony about abuse than is mentioned in this article. I thought she had a good shot at self defense until she took the stand. She dug a second grave that day. <br /><br />Kelly Siegler was an awesome prosecutor but her attitude toward winning can be summed up in her lecture to those law students. She would do things she could get away with even if she knew they shouldn't come in front of a jury. The shame of it is that she didn't need to play those games to win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-46591609244875945622009-11-13T09:54:57.997-06:002009-11-13T09:54:57.997-06:00Brian Wice won the award for defense attorney of t...Brian Wice won the award for defense attorney of the year for a reason. You prosecutors think he is scared of the outcome and are trying to prey on that fear. Wice is a gladiator and will get the same outcome he did against Mia in the Benton case- PROBATION! Wice has been there before and he will do it again.I suspect Susan knows this and I am sure she sleeps well at night knowing all she needs is her new day in court. Bring it on! We will see who laughs last!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-80401264418589255812009-11-13T08:51:58.648-06:002009-11-13T08:51:58.648-06:00Anon 10:29;
The ethics of a successful politician ...Anon 10:29;<br />The ethics of a successful politician versus a successful prosecutor are as similar as night and day. Just because a successful politician more often than not must sell their soul and ethical compass to prevail; the same does not follow for a rock star prosecutor. Your projections may have won an election but they can't bullshit those that are actually informed. <br />It is a travesty that the dark of night beat the brightest ray of sunshine at the polls and justice in Harris County is paying dearly for it now, Missy.<br /><br />In over 2 decades as a prosecutor with a couple of hundred jury trials under Kelly's belt what exactly are these ethical violations you reference? <br />As I recall, the "nuts and fruitcake" comment was not deemed unethical or racist by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. If guilt by mere association with a real nut and fruitcake named Chuck Rosenthal is what you hang your logic on, then what the fuck is Denise Onken still doing there? <br />Perhaps you reference the Dick DeGuerin flunkie who filed an unsubstantiated grievance (as evidenced by its subsequent immediate dismissal) against Kelly after she stomped him in court once again? Sheer coincidence? Bullshit! <br />Prosecutors who actually try the hard cases naturally step on a few toes...the good ones anyway, who are not afraid to stand up for what is right, regardless of personal sacrifice. That is something a politician who never sets foot in a courtroom as a trial lawyer will ever fully appreciate or understand. In the world of ethics it is NOT always about YOU it is about fighting for what is RIGHT regardless of the personal consequences.<br />True enough there are some ADAs who practice criminal defense who are prosecutors at heart; wrestling with the moral dilemma of their situation. These folks have expertise in criminal law and families to feed. The ethical consequences of working for Pat Lykos versus defending the criminal element weighs in favor of the later. The difference, however, is that these folks will insure that the criminal defendants they zealously represent are afforded due process but not at the expense of the bastardization of the criminal justice system. It is not a game for these guys.Xinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-81402804185314827882009-11-12T23:06:37.802-06:002009-11-12T23:06:37.802-06:00HOLD THE PRESS
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mp...HOLD THE PRESS<br /><br />http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6717829.html<br /><br />DA did something that could be construed is positive so the Chronicle's Brian Dough Boy Rogers is ON THE SPOT.<br /><br />I guess he forgot to follow up on her quote, "we already have a plan in place"with some legitimate questions. Something like, "Isn't that what you said about DIVERT, what about court 2 and 14?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-48054179476962708982009-11-12T22:57:08.538-06:002009-11-12T22:57:08.538-06:00Anon 10:29 or whoever you are,
You seem to be sp...Anon 10:29 or whoever you are, <br /><br />You seem to be spending quite a bit of time trying to justify Pat giving Susan a lesser sentence and trying to once again rehash the campaign. Mentioning DeToto indicates you know him. Detot actually tries cases ( see Ashley Benton).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-59590740239390324092009-11-12T22:49:28.113-06:002009-11-12T22:49:28.113-06:00Anon 10:29 (Brian or friend of Brian),
Some peopl...Anon 10:29 (Brian or friend of Brian),<br /><br />Some people may think that you spent your life sucking up and then backstabbing the person you sucked up to. In this instance, Pat isn't going to buy into that post. It is too late for that big boy. You made your bed, now lie in it. This isn't Benton where you took the photos but didn't take a witness in the trial. Susan is your girl and you made her bed. I sure hope you didn't make any promises because fate is around the corner. <br /><br />I agree, Pat is doing the right thing by re-prosecuting your murdering client. She didn't do the right thing with the traffic cases or Onken. But this case, you read it wrong sweetie.<br /><br />Your description of DA's and pure defense lawyers is funny. You are a pure defense lawyer who is about to get his pure ass handed to him. Have fun and keep trying to spin. Oh, and it is Kelly, not Kelley, that fooled noone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-78617872620645992152009-11-12T22:39:35.968-06:002009-11-12T22:39:35.968-06:00Anon 10:29 p.m.,
And Rick signed his name to what ...Anon 10:29 p.m.,<br />And Rick signed his name to what he wrote.<br />You attack Kelly's ethics and at the same time hold yourself out as the gold standard of defense attorneys? <br />I agree with your assessment about there being two different types of defense attorneys, however, but I don't think you attach the right descriptions of their differences. Some defense attorneys believe in the criminal justice system and themselves and know that they can do a good job whether their client is factually guilty or not.<br />Some just believe that every client is innocent in all occasions and prosecutors do nothing but embody evil oppression.<br />The only reason you claim that Lykos is "getting it right most of the time" is because she's acting like a defense attorney. That may serve as a Utopian situation for you, but it damn sure ain't what the voters elected her to do.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-71173351258675793122009-11-12T22:29:10.140-06:002009-11-12T22:29:10.140-06:00I am astounded at this blog and the comments. Afte...I am astounded at this blog and the comments. After having been in the courthouse for almost 3 decades I have seen the difference between the true defense lawyers and those who became defense lawyers because they had no choice. Some believe in what they do and see the district attorney's office as their adversaries while some are defense lawyers only because they got fired from the da's office or they left so that they could try to make more money. It seems like most of the comments come from those in the latter group.<br />It is obvious that there are many who would try to use this case to try to shame Pat Lykos into doing something that is unfair or wrong as to this defendant, in order to pit her against Kelly Siegler. The truth is that Kelley while Kelley may have been effective in bad cases, she was also void of ethics and had little regard for the constitutional rights of other people. Those defense lawyers that support those ideals are the bottom tier of defense lawyers who are a disgrace to the profession. It is time for them to decide who they are and what they stand for and if being a defense lawyer is uncomfortable for them, then maybe it is time to go do divorces or go prosecute in some remote county where we will never have to hear from them again.<br />The truth is that while you may not like Lykos, she does get it right most of the time. She has made major changes that are mostly good and she has restored some amount of dignity that Rosenthal took away from the dynasty that Johnny Holmes built. He was a disgrace to the county and the profession and whether you like Lykos or not, she has repaired much of the damage that he did.<br />If Lykos agrees to a fair disposition in this case, it will demonstrate that she is not committed to the type of pandering and bullying that the Rosenthal administration stood for. As the great legal scholar, Rick Detoto, said, "enough said".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-42206812911395190602009-11-12T17:37:46.707-06:002009-11-12T17:37:46.707-06:00Word from the inside is that there will be no plea...Word from the inside is that there will be no plea bargain! It seems as though Mr. Wice blinked. Poetic Justice at its best. Kudos to the 6th floor. I finally agree with one of their moves. <br /><br />This is going to be fun to watch. I know quite a few defense lawyers that are going to enjoy this event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-84572356014850224242009-11-12T17:14:55.463-06:002009-11-12T17:14:55.463-06:00When Susan Wright trades 25 for life it'll be ...When Susan Wright trades 25 for life it'll be Brian Wice rather than DeGeurin's firm held for ineffective counsel. <br />Wice's only potential saving Grace is that Kelly won't be handling the re-trial. But Mia's the next best thing so my bet is the blond butcher gets life anyway. <br />Irony at it's finest. LOL.Poetic Justicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-45526621053574589302009-11-12T15:10:53.481-06:002009-11-12T15:10:53.481-06:00Has anyone gotten Ted Oberg up to speed on Donna G...Has anyone gotten Ted Oberg up to speed on Donna Goode?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-76880141800146975772009-11-12T15:09:01.608-06:002009-11-12T15:09:01.608-06:00WHAT TO DO WITH SUSAN WRIGHT?
Are you freaking ki...WHAT TO DO WITH SUSAN WRIGHT?<br /><br />Are you freaking kidding? Hang her from the nearest tree and have a pinata party using machetes.<br />What's with all the hoopla?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com