tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post8759556934254461603..comments2024-03-28T00:50:16.901-05:00Comments on Life at the Harris County Criminal Justice Center: The Transcript Is InMurray Newmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-65069162678265523372009-04-25T19:50:00.000-05:002009-04-25T19:50:00.000-05:00Print the whole thing and let us decide for oursel...Print the whole thing and let us decide for ourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-30523189051248649892009-04-13T08:41:00.000-05:002009-04-13T08:41:00.000-05:00ANON 9:10:OMG, it does not take a lot of balls or ...ANON 9:10:<BR/>OMG, it does not take a lot of balls or effort to pay a scribe an obscene amount of money to xerox some pages that are quadrupled spaced with huge margins under the ruse that court reporters are over worked and under paid. <BR/>It'll be public record soon enough anyway....the statute for defamation is only one (1) year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-91963702335194955532009-04-12T22:59:00.000-05:002009-04-12T22:59:00.000-05:00Great post, I'm going to link this at blog houston...Great post, I'm going to link this at blog houston because people need to know the whole story.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351350773188711876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-43387867650158128062009-04-10T19:18:00.000-05:002009-04-10T19:18:00.000-05:00Focus on the issue, there is no reason for Lykos t...Focus on the issue, there is no reason for Lykos to have punished these two fine prosecutors. She was only looking for publicity for herself. She does not care if she destroys the lives of others. She does not seek justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-46741632081275813962009-04-09T21:27:00.000-05:002009-04-09T21:27:00.000-05:00My only last word is that I've probably tried more...My only last word is that I've probably tried more cases in your county than you have.Rage Judicatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765188025349228048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-22540329362833081962009-04-09T21:10:00.000-05:002009-04-09T21:10:00.000-05:00To those out there giving Murray crap for not post...To those out there giving Murray crap for not posting the transcript verbatim -- the solution is easy ... get off your butt and fork over the money for your own transcript or go over to his office. Seriously -- stop blaming him for your own laziness and having the balls to do the right thing because it is the right thing. It is not right to post it verbatim when folks out there work hard to type these things up, make copies, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-32999944078424997992009-04-09T19:59:00.000-05:002009-04-09T19:59:00.000-05:00Rage, I don't doubt that you've never had to pay a...Rage, I don't doubt that you've never had to pay a plaintiff's lawyer, "ever". There's a reason I practice law in Austin, and not Houston. Actually, there are about 12 reasons, but I digress. The civil judges in this county don't like chickenshit lawyers any more than I do. If they are going to waste my time flaunting discovery rules that are designed to keep attorneys from wasting time, I am damned sure going to ask to be paid for the time I wasted. If you want to come to Austin to tell a judge I'm a whiner, you can watch me whine all the way to the bank. At the last two motion to compel hearings I had, the first question the judge asked me was how much I wanted in attorney's fees.<BR/><BR/>If you think I'm being a cheap bastard because I think $110 is too much money to pay a court reporter to spend five minutes photocopying a depo, there's nothing I can do about that. My first thought is it's your clients who are getting their money's worth (maybe they ooh and aah over those nice, shiny covers). But, like I said, I haven't had, or had to have, a motion to compel hearing since 2000. Maybe folks are shooting emails about me, but they don't say what you think they do.<BR/><BR/>This is so far off OT, I'll let you have the last word. Looking forward to Murray's next post about Lykos.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06800907780727476826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-9710817039612867232009-04-09T19:35:00.000-05:002009-04-09T19:35:00.000-05:00Michael:Not once have I ever had to pay money to a...Michael:<BR/><BR/>Not once have I ever had to pay money to a plaintiff's lawyer. Ever. Primarily because I've never asked a judge to award me money against another lawyer, and the old ones know it. The new ones will learn. In court, if you act like a jackass and whine and cry about me not giving you a copy of something that you had the opportunity to order for your damn self, the judges e-mail each other and let them know. I'm sure your name has popped up in one of those e-mails, but mine never has. <BR/><BR/>Sure, it's a witness statement, but it's equally available to them. And if you'd only get $230 for drafting and attending a hearing on a motion to compel, well, I'm sure your clients are getting their money's worth. <BR/><BR/>Don't be a cheap bastard and steal from a court reporter.Rage Judicatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765188025349228048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-29711672817421532962009-04-09T18:45:00.000-05:002009-04-09T18:45:00.000-05:00Unfortunately, the transcript won't tell the entir...Unfortunately, the transcript won't tell the entire story. The ADAs struck two non-black witnesses for being indecisive on punishment/rehabilitation? How can you verify that? I can't imagine it would be in the transcript, but maybe it was perhaps to reassure the court and opposing counsel that this reason for striking black jurors was not pretextual.<BR/><BR/>But that is my next point. The DAs did not have an obligation to <I>provide</I> a race-neutral reason to strike a black juror; they actually had to <I>have</I> one. In other words, the reason they offered the court could not be pretextual. The defense was free to argue that the proffered reasons were pretextual, and the Court was free to reach that conclusion. What's more, we don't know everything we need to second-guess the Court. How many white check-bouncers would have been on the jury?<BR/><BR/>Now, with regard to Lykos, I'm sure you know by now that I wouldn't pee on her ass if it was on fire. That doesn't mean the DAs here didn't do something wrong. What's my standard for a Batson challenge -- preponderance? They did it, then.<BR/><BR/>With regards to printing the transcript: I don't think it will help. Court reporters earn their money taking dictation with a ten-key machine during a trial, not making $1.10 a page photocopies in their office. As for Rage and not providing plaintiff lawyers a copy of a deposition, a deposition is a witness statement. I can't remember the last time I had to go to court to compel production of a deposition copy, but it was the 20th century. The cost to photocopy the depo would have been about 6 bucks, instead of $230 in attorney's fees assessed by a judge who hates discovery motions.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06800907780727476826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-74721270992446420702009-04-09T18:39:00.000-05:002009-04-09T18:39:00.000-05:00What am I being evasive about? I told you what wa...What am I being evasive about? I told you what was in it. I told you that I'm not publishing it. What questions do you have?<BR/><BR/>I believe that I've been very clear that I only got the portion of the voir dire relating to the Batson challenge, which addresses the reasoning. Quite frankly, I don't have the money to purchase the entirety of the voir dire. That's still more than Lykos and the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight have done, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>If someone thinks that there is something more that is relevant in the remainder of the transcript, they are going to need to contact the court reporter in the 182nd. <BR/><BR/>Seriously, I'm not going to publish the transcript. It is open and available for inspection. Hell, I will bring it to the CJC on Monday. If you want to see it, flag me down.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-85231881490799010192009-04-09T18:29:00.000-05:002009-04-09T18:29:00.000-05:00Murray,you are giving answers evasive to the quest...Murray,you are giving answers evasive to the questions being asked. Are you hiding something or practicing to be in politics? For the readers to understand what really happened then publish the voir dire.If you only paid 25 dollars then you did not get everything or did you? Like the others we all want to see and then decide. From MissouriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-4003121485775604682009-04-09T18:16:00.000-05:002009-04-09T18:16:00.000-05:00Oh come on Anon,Just because we disagree over what...Oh come on Anon,<BR/>Just because we disagree over what I'm going to do doesn't make me arrogant. I listed my reasons for why I won't post the transcript. If I was truly arrogant, I would just say "because I said so", like Lykos and Leitner do.<BR/>You are welcome to come by and take a look at it. I'll even keep your identity a secret.<BR/><BR/>Jig,<BR/>I didn't ask the court reporter her opinion as to the jury, because I didn't want to put her in an awkward position. I appreciated her promptness and efficiency in getting the report to me.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-85706021492839967602009-04-09T17:23:00.000-05:002009-04-09T17:23:00.000-05:00Murray,There is no excuse for arrogance. Period.Le...Murray,<BR/>There is no excuse for arrogance. Period.<BR/>Leitner was never elected dog catcher and we both condemn his arrogant demeanor.<BR/>You're better than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-16969738488768547392009-04-09T17:10:00.000-05:002009-04-09T17:10:00.000-05:00It's one of my favorite movies. I should apoligiz...It's one of my favorite movies. I should apoligize to the memory of Patton. Unlike Patty, he was a warrior who lead from the front. He did share a personality trait with Patty though. Loved to see his name in print at the expense of others.<BR/><BR/>Murry: Perhaps more important than the transcript. What did the court reporter tell you about the jurors? I often learned alot from court personnel.jigmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924600460740103836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-53032468684173726242009-04-09T17:06:00.000-05:002009-04-09T17:06:00.000-05:00Anon 5:02 p.m.,I'm a pudgy bald man. How can I he...Anon 5:02 p.m.,<BR/>I'm a pudgy bald man. How can I help myself from being arrogant?<BR/>The difference is I'm not an elected official in charge of running the D.A.'s office.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-43885590565449525372009-04-09T17:02:00.000-05:002009-04-09T17:02:00.000-05:00Senor Newman,The arrogance of your response is mor...Senor Newman,<BR/>The arrogance of your response is more suited to Lykos or Leitner. I'm disappointed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-40942680900043971432009-04-09T16:54:00.000-05:002009-04-09T16:54:00.000-05:00Come on now jig, you weren't watching the movie. ...Come on now jig, you weren't watching the movie. Ike sacked him as a ploy to hold him in reserve to keep the Germans guessing as to when they'd use him for the invasion. So along those lines, if she were sacked from DA, she'd wind up as governor next. <BR/><BR/>You may not care about life outside the DA's office, but I sure as hell do.Rage Judicatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765188025349228048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-92065095915179508662009-04-09T16:42:00.000-05:002009-04-09T16:42:00.000-05:00Anon 4:35 p.m.,My position on publishing the trans...Anon 4:35 p.m.,<BR/>My position on publishing the transcript is not up for debate.<BR/>My interpretation is exact.<BR/>Your request is denied.Murray Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00662196272138109874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-56035412065052141542009-04-09T16:35:00.000-05:002009-04-09T16:35:00.000-05:00WTF Murray, save it. The only ones at the criminal...WTF Murray, save it. The only ones at the criminal court house making more money than the court reporters are the criminal defense attorneys....not the judges and definitely not the ADAs. <BR/>You already paid for your copy....should we all pay their exploitative photocopy fees as well? <BR/>Just post the damn transcript verbatim so we can each draw our own conclusions without your interpretation muddling things up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-28251927800771294252009-04-09T15:50:00.000-05:002009-04-09T15:50:00.000-05:00Probably not Rage. Too bad their is no Ike to sac...Probably not Rage. Too bad their is no Ike to sack her.jigmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924600460740103836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-54529783277817729592009-04-09T15:42:00.000-05:002009-04-09T15:42:00.000-05:00Jig, do you really think Lykos' apology will be an...Jig, do you really think Lykos' apology will be any more sincere than Patton's was?<BR/><BR/>And while I'd say it looks like they're safe, without the whole transcript we still can't be 100% sure.Rage Judicatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765188025349228048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-50332174616497663862009-04-09T15:20:00.000-05:002009-04-09T15:20:00.000-05:00There is no question now that these prosecutors ap...There is no question now that these prosecutors appropriately did their job. Lykos ought to reinstate them to their old positions and publicly apologize ala George Patton.jigmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924600460740103836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-52277925086827716222009-04-09T14:52:00.000-05:002009-04-09T14:52:00.000-05:00Anon 1213 I'm with you.Get the whole thing and...Anon 1213 I'm with you.Get the whole thing and there will be no question about what the white jurors said.Did any of them have similar answers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-80976809596191983502009-04-09T14:48:00.000-05:002009-04-09T14:48:00.000-05:00Well, "I struck a white guy for that too" isn't pa...Well, "I struck a white guy for that too" isn't part of a Batson analysis, although it may be race-neutral, but I see what you're saying. I can also understand why the state would want someone who can pull the trigger, and would view that as race neutral whether or not they only asked black jurors that question. <BR/><BR/>I have no idea where these black jurors fell in the panel, but one of my tricks is that I always decide where the last of the 12 can possibly fall and don't strike any minorities after that point so I can say "look, I didn't strike all the black people." That's not truly a Batson defense either, but you'd be amazed at the number of Harris County judges who think it is. <BR/><BR/>And good move not publishing the transcript. There's nothing I hate more than a plaintiff's lawyer who doesn't buy it from the reporter, but expects me to fax them a copy. I always make them waste their time filing a motion to compel and go to a hearing on it. Or I charge them what I paid, and send it to the reporter. Times are tough for them, especially post HB4.Rage Judicatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04765188025349228048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7566778230970156239.post-65771782479344131392009-04-09T14:45:00.000-05:002009-04-09T14:45:00.000-05:00How many indecisive white jurors did they leave ON...How many indecisive white jurors did they leave ON the panel? That's the serious question. <BR/><BR/>If they struck every "indecisive" black juror, and only a small minority of the "indecisive" white jurors, then one would be hard-pressed to give a racially neutral explanation for the difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com